working conditions. and people wanted to join a union because they saw value. shouldn't we have that same equation continue today? let's give workers the choice and if they see value and that value has been presented, they'll join. if not, there's an issue that should be addressed. >> governor, you were talking earlier, this will help michigan attract jobs. have you lost jobs to wisconsin, let's say, or indiana or ohio which actually have tougher right-to-work laws? >> well, indiana's the key case. in february they put through right-to-work laws and they've mentioned there are 90 different companies that have looked at indiana since then and cited this as one of the factors that would account for thousands of jobs. michigan lost 750,000 jobs in the last decade. the last two years, we've added 148,000 jobs back. we're forecasted to add more. but let's keep going. we're the comeback state in the nation. but i want to see that pace even pick up faster. >> right-to-work coming to the state f o michigan, governor, we appreciate it very much, sir. >> great to be with you, larry.